Tuesday, October 2, 2007

Monster 1.11b: First thoughts and Speculation

Well now that the new patch has finally been released, I can finally rest easy knowing that now I have people to play with instead of consistantly testing things on my own all of the time. With that in mind I now have a chance to be able to tell what each and every character is capable of doing in a vs environment. I have only been able to test combos and tactics for 2 characters lately and i probably will only go indepth about those 2 characters. Monster's game system has also greatly changed since version 1.01 and Now requires a good amount of skill and understanding to completely use the system to its maximum potential.

Monster now has a "reset" system. This system resets your opponent at the point of contact when you hit them with an normal anti air or air to air attack(meaning any move that isnt a special move or a "C" move.) Upon the removal of the bursting system and the addition of this system, Monster took a really huge turn in the style of play that it had before. Where alot of the characters in monster were very offensive heavy, now Because of alot of the changes can actually be defensive and not have much worry about the burst system resetting the pressure situation for both players. Though before you could not combo after bursting Bursting still left the attacker at somewhat of an advantage if properly used with the point system. The bursting system could have been refined all together. But the Monster staff felt that the system should be removed all together to create a more technical turn. At least in my opinion.

Specific character changes in monster leave me to wonder what turn will the game actually make. Will the game actually take more of a traditional turn or will it stay on the beaten path of "Different game" I like difference. The same shit to me makes it really boring and unexciting to play. Monster however constantly(both good and bad thing) changing things up to keep me wondering what will be next. Alot of the characters got needed changes and some got unneeded changes. Overall i personally believe that monster right now is still very much good and is still very much alive. Its just a matter of keeping it that way.

With some of the more recent changes i believe i can still tier the characters based on the information that has been gathered

S tier
Ryougen/Othello(maybe)

A tier
Siely
Othello

B
Katze
Maya
Rail

C tier

Orju
Delga

Trash tier
Aleksander

*will finish updating when i am not so lazy*

45 comments:

Crow Winters said...

Delga has some major bizzare glitching in his grabs in this patch. All his command throws cause the enemy to spaz out (At least during practice mode!) while they are being thrown. It's worse during F shift, where the command grab loop will sometimes, if near a corner, causes the enemy to end up /behind you/ as you run forward for the next loop.

I don't entirely understand the reset system, and when it's supposed to reset. Delga's got 66B B 66B B 66B loops in open feild and 66B AAA 66B AAA 66B in the corner. The last 66B /most of the time/ will reset the enemy, forceing that to be the point of shifting/finish your combo. However, there have been more then a handful of times where the last 66B actually launched /higher/, during the same combo, for seemingly no reason. Any insight on this?

Crow Winters said...

Also, I'm curious to hear why you rank Ryougen as S tier now, even though a parry is punishable now even if it is successful (and DP dosen't lead to A-strings anymore). I understand parry builds meter fast and he's still got run and OTG supers, and I also know I don't play this game nearly enough online (However, with my new apartment/connection, this just might change :) but I was curious to hear the reasons because, for all intents and purposes, I could've sworn he was totally weaker.

AyaImmortal said...

I believe ryougen is still top tier. He still has combos and he completely out range everyone. Yes he is indeed a weaker character but he still has alot of advantages that alot of characters do not have.

and WHY ARENT YOU IN IRC!

AyaImmortal said...

I believe ryougen is still top tier. He still has combos and he completely out range everyone. Yes he is indeed a weaker character but he still has alot of advantages that alot of characters do not have.

and WHY ARENT YOU IN IRC!

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